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1. Your stories are known to take the reader into a dreamlike
state of consciousness. How many stories are based on real
dreams?
All of the dreams were real, as much as dreams are real, and are all mine. The criteria for inclusion
in the book were sexual and aggressive repressed material that found its way into my dreams and
took a crooked road to my conscious awareness.
The entries in the book are depicted by their headings--the capitalized titles representing dreams.
The Roman numerals at the start of each section represent a relationship that I refer to as a
relational dance. The stories are sequential. The dreams are also somewhat sequential although the
telling of them less so. The lower case titles represent poetical renderings of free associations, also
surrounding one’s relationship with self and others, mine as well as in general.
2. You are a clinical psychologist in Chicago. To what extent
do your clinical and research experiences inform your creative
writing?
My clinical work and my creative work are intertwined. I devote some of my artistic expression
to found object assemblage, which basically means I i nd ordinary objects and juxtapose them in
a contained setting that dialogues with viewers. I incorporate text, and the placement of chosen
text and objects serves to visually represent the conl icts in human nature. These conl icts are
examined in my clinical practice, are part of my own self, and came together in ‘nightsweats’ vis-
à-vis powerful images that, in the articulation, formed an outpouring of questions and not-always-
satisfying answers.
3. You use pronouns in place of names for your characters.
Was this a device to create space between your reader and the
material, or bring them closer together?
I chose to deliberately confound with the style of the book: the grammatical and punctuation
departures, the lack of names that might bring clarity to an event that could not be clear by virtue
of its dream status, the breathless nature of the writing. The book is meant to elicit the question...
Is isolation or connectedness preferred? Is it more frightening to be with someone or alone?
4. Do you have a daily dream journal?
No, never have.
5. When did you start taking interest and recording your
dreams?
I don’t write down my dreams, and consequently have lost many I was sure I’d remember. The
disappearance of those dreams spoke to me about the need to forget them; to me, it meant
they clearly were not meant for the book. The book came from my love of writing mixed with the
accumulating nightmares that were so present I knew they were screaming to be brought into
consciousness, articulated and examined. The idea to share them came later . I was at a crossroads of
my own personal journey – an existential crisis of sorts – and the very existence of the dreams were
telling me that I needed to explore what was going on for me.
I wanted to challenge myself by articulating them – difi cult because the material was vague and
murky as dreams are, and it seemed so unusual yet necessary to put words to them. It presented a
huge personal risk; even though as a psychologist, I know that dreams speak in bent and crooked
terms, I also know that they are unique to our own process. The themes seem universal, while the
manner in which the content came to me, my own. It was threatening to examine them, let alone
publicize them. And the relationship vignettes and poetical renderings were no less important; I felt
that the book needed to come together as a combination of daytime and nighttime process.
As for the interest in my dreams, they have always been an active and present part of my life. I have
always felt like I had a separate, albeit integrated, life that came about at night while I was sleeping
– and also just before sleep, when my waking mind would become disoriented and my thoughts
disjointed, just before succumbing to sleep. I often dream many times in one night, and can usually
remember several or at least one. It depends on the content and my state of readiness, I suppose, to
learn from them.
6. Your characters often move through situations where they
use, manipulate, or exploit each other in both subtle and obvious
ways. Is recurrent theme an aspect of human nature that you
are interested in?
If one compares the dreams to my own conceptual analyses in the book expressed as poetical, and
certainly to the relationship vignettes, one can see that the dreams were an extension of my own
concerns about myself as a person, as well as others. The motivation and manipulation surrounding
relating, that often came out as intrusive, hostile, or worse, tempting, is what plagues us as humans.
The desire to hide from our own intentions, to pretend for the sake of social/political relating, and
to maneuver around discomi ting situations are present in all of us. We just don’t often look deeply
enough into ourselves to i nd and then acknowledge. It is the most common trouble we are caused,
it is inescapable even if we aim to avoid it all, and it is certainly in us all. Yes, it interests me greatly,
both as a psychologist and as a thinker.
7. Many of your readers might assume that you write
in mysterious or surreal environments? What kind of
environments do you work in? (private study, public space, etc.)
I wrote a bit of the material outside of my home if I felt overcome with thoughts and felt the need to
capture it in the moment (based on opportunity of course), but most of it was written in the privacy
and seclusion of my home. It’s the same with my art pieces, most of which are encapsulated in
boxes. The home is a box of sorts, that contains, can provide a haven, that defines and confines, yet
the making of the expressions for public viewing extends it outside of that home. (The metaphor of
a box is not lost on me as a female either!)
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